I don’t think the vacation dates are much different but I assume it has something to do with Channuka or Christmas...If we go after Thursday then Friday would be pretty bad to have all the icebreakers and programs...That cuts out Friday. Saturday is totally out of the question,Sunday is both Christmas and the first night of channukah ...lots and lots of traffic on the highways and a lot of places close down or are packed. I guess they just decided it would run smoother from the22nd. *shrug* If you really want the definite answer you can contact the National Office.
Yeah, that’s pretty much it. Things are pretty tough with both 12/25 and 1/1 on Sundays. We can’t expect that everyone will be out of school before 12/23, but making the program start on Friday in New York in the winter (when weather is bad and Shabbos is early) is asking for trouble. To do it later overlaps New Year’s which keeps more people from attending than Christmas does. Plus, we now have the first two days of Chanukah in Yarchei Kallah; a week later and we’d have Shabbos Chanukah, which keeps some NCSYers - and a lot of advisors - from being available. And let’s not even talk about trying to go home after New Year’s!
In short, it was the best we could do, given the calendar as it occurs.
Jack-Doesn’t one of your son’s birthdays usually fall out during Yarchei Kallah/xTx. Also so glad you changed the name back to Yarchei Kallah. xTx sounds to much like a name of a drug.
ah yes...those of us who refused to succumb to the peer pressure of the name change have been vindicated...to quote Herbert Hoover, “it was a noble experiment.”
Oh, please. “Noble experiment” doesn’t enter into it. I’m getting as many people griping that we changed the name back as I did when we changed it in the first place! You “old timers” who were around before the name change like the original name; newcomers prefer the newer name. It all depends on what one knows.
lol...the entire post was tounge-in-cheek...on a more serious note though, yarchei kallah is a more universal term and carries the connotation of learning torah...xtx plays more to people as “wow, this is cool” as opposed to being concentrated on learning...that’s (objectively) why i prefer yarchei kallah.
You’re right that “Yarchei Kallah” means learning Torah - but since the program is aimed primarily at public school students, many of them don’t know that! “Extreme Torah” conveys the same idea, but in words that are immediately apparent.
For all of you who are new and have no clue what xtx is!! first of all look and the website and secondly consider coming it is one of the best programs ncsy has to offer
Well for a lot of Jews...Torah is their drug of choice. It keeps them inspired, mentally active and happy.
i agree with eric… did you get that off of rebo’s Torah High idea?
for all those that dont know the infamous Rapping Rabbi Rebo of Canada region… he is the rabbi incharge of torah high… a credit program for public skool kids… and is quite the interesting character. Hes an awesome rabbi and sometimes can be funny in skits when he comes out as a punk kid from the east side… NYC… awsome shabbaton!...so its just his joke.
nope I didn’t get it from Rebo… but now that you mention it....that getting high in the park program and the snort crack icebreaker were way too drug related in name. For those of you that weren’t on Canada’s NYshabbaton ...The program in the park was to learn Torah and ask question while the ice breaker was plainly just a bunch of people snorting (nothing) and another group of people cracking their knuckle’s.